Toyo Proxes CF2 Reviews - Page 6
Given 90%
while driving a
Alfa Romeo (195/55 R16 H)
on a combination of roads
for 1,000 average miles
After I changed the Conti's Premium 5 the rear of the car is more stable and great grip in all conditions. Great wear at corners after pushing the car. Quick response at corrections and precise braking! Buying again for sure.
Given 89%
while driving a
Ford Focus mk2
(205/55 R16 H)
on a combination of roads
for 8,000 average miles
I would say that these tires make a great deal considering their price in Croatia (entire set was paid around 255€ with fitting). I like to drive a bit faster than it would be suggested by the speed limits :) , but I also have a small child and mostly drive it around town with lots of accelerations and sudden brakings (thanks to other drivers who tend to slide in right in front of my car) and so far, these tires have been exceptional, I almost always know how the car is going to handle and how much grip I have left.
What fascinated me the most was handling on wet roads. Downhill at about 95 mph on a rainy night and not a single sign of sliding or aquaplanning, MASSIVE grip and responsivness!
The set is working through its second year and next year I'm going to swap the rear and front pair just to be safe, but even with a lot of power and torque on the front axle, the fronts are doing great, almost no wear or eventual peeling of thread, so I assume they will last for at least two more years before I buy a new set.
The rolling resistance and fuel economy are also exceptional, on good roads I can't even hear the tires rolling :)
If Toyo doesn't make a worthy successor to this great tire, I will buy a new set for sure. Best regards!
What fascinated me the most was handling on wet roads. Downhill at about 95 mph on a rainy night and not a single sign of sliding or aquaplanning, MASSIVE grip and responsivness!
The set is working through its second year and next year I'm going to swap the rear and front pair just to be safe, but even with a lot of power and torque on the front axle, the fronts are doing great, almost no wear or eventual peeling of thread, so I assume they will last for at least two more years before I buy a new set.
The rolling resistance and fuel economy are also exceptional, on good roads I can't even hear the tires rolling :)
If Toyo doesn't make a worthy successor to this great tire, I will buy a new set for sure. Best regards!
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Given 83%
while driving a
Ford Fiesta mk7
(185/60 R14 H)
on a combination of roads
for 100 average miles
Fitted the Proxes CF2 to my Fiesta 1,2 Mk7 one week ago. Initial impressions are very good, compared to the dreadful Conti EcoContact 2 they replaced (the Contis were NOT fully worn, they had lots of life in them, but couldn't stand the awful, snappy ride). Motivation for replacement was a search for a comfier tire, much more suited to real-life-condition roads.
Although tires are not fully scrubbed in (so I cannot comment on their grip, wet grip, etc.), as far as comfort and steering precision goes, they seem to please already: they have literally TRANSFORMED the car on rougher road surfaces, the feeling is literally almost as if new (different) shock absorbers were fitted - the ride is now pliant, and sharp imperfections are tackled with a much more refined, "oiled smooth" feeling through the seat, as opposed to the choppy, punishing ride the Contis gave (actually I thought my front shocks were defective, it was THAT bad....). It seems that the Proxes CF2 actually "clicks" very well with the stock Fiesta mk7 suspension, and they work in perfect harmony against bumps, potholes and other road imperfections. Extremely pleased.
Also, the secondary ride is FAR plushier, the car acquired that "gliding" (OK, not exactly wafting, it's a Fiesta after all...) feel, so much so, that the car's speed became more tricky to judge (if you not look at the speedometer).
Straight-line tracking is way better too, although perhaps not that much as could be achieved with some decidedly sporty type of tire (Potenzas, P Zeto etc), but it offers an extremely decent compromise (especially for the price (!)) between straight-line steering quality and comfort (both primary and secondary ride (!)).
Cornering is not yet possible to be judged, as the tires are still fairly new and not scrubbed-in, but dry grip seems
to be immense even now.
Steering precision in cornering is also way better than many other tires, although, ultimately it's not that positive in "steering feel" as a full-fledged sport tire would be, on these (awesomely engineered, still impossible to beat) Fiesta Mk7 chassis/steering system. Still, compared to the shabby OEM Contis, the steering feel "grew a size or two" with the Toyos, without any doubt.
I will report back once the tires reach an optimum mileage of 2,000-2,500 miles.
Verdict for now: a mature, "grown up" tire, that totally converts the Fiesta Mk7 from a fun, lively steer and an unbearably choppy ride for a "bearable" daily driver, (on bad roads), into a plush, sedan like ride, with ZERO loss of the steering & rear axle agility that the Mk7 is reknown for & legendary, whilst offering probably one of the very best ride comfort out there, and obtaining a "perfect chemistry" with the OEM shockers on the Fiesta. If you had doubts about the Mk7 being able to offer a plush, comfy ride, than try these and you'd be gobsmacked at the sheer difference of the experience. The Mk7 has so much sportiness & agility in its suspension, that I don't feel that I've lost any of it, in spite of the huge (night and day) difference in ride comfort that I gained. This is especially so with this particular size (185/60-14), as it seems to suit the stock, 1,2 Fiesta perfectly.
Simply put: these tires immediately added a layer of "big car plushiness" in the ride, that was previously inexistent
on the stock Contis.
Although tires are not fully scrubbed in (so I cannot comment on their grip, wet grip, etc.), as far as comfort and steering precision goes, they seem to please already: they have literally TRANSFORMED the car on rougher road surfaces, the feeling is literally almost as if new (different) shock absorbers were fitted - the ride is now pliant, and sharp imperfections are tackled with a much more refined, "oiled smooth" feeling through the seat, as opposed to the choppy, punishing ride the Contis gave (actually I thought my front shocks were defective, it was THAT bad....). It seems that the Proxes CF2 actually "clicks" very well with the stock Fiesta mk7 suspension, and they work in perfect harmony against bumps, potholes and other road imperfections. Extremely pleased.
Also, the secondary ride is FAR plushier, the car acquired that "gliding" (OK, not exactly wafting, it's a Fiesta after all...) feel, so much so, that the car's speed became more tricky to judge (if you not look at the speedometer).
Straight-line tracking is way better too, although perhaps not that much as could be achieved with some decidedly sporty type of tire (Potenzas, P Zeto etc), but it offers an extremely decent compromise (especially for the price (!)) between straight-line steering quality and comfort (both primary and secondary ride (!)).
Cornering is not yet possible to be judged, as the tires are still fairly new and not scrubbed-in, but dry grip seems
to be immense even now.
Steering precision in cornering is also way better than many other tires, although, ultimately it's not that positive in "steering feel" as a full-fledged sport tire would be, on these (awesomely engineered, still impossible to beat) Fiesta Mk7 chassis/steering system. Still, compared to the shabby OEM Contis, the steering feel "grew a size or two" with the Toyos, without any doubt.
I will report back once the tires reach an optimum mileage of 2,000-2,500 miles.
Verdict for now: a mature, "grown up" tire, that totally converts the Fiesta Mk7 from a fun, lively steer and an unbearably choppy ride for a "bearable" daily driver, (on bad roads), into a plush, sedan like ride, with ZERO loss of the steering & rear axle agility that the Mk7 is reknown for & legendary, whilst offering probably one of the very best ride comfort out there, and obtaining a "perfect chemistry" with the OEM shockers on the Fiesta. If you had doubts about the Mk7 being able to offer a plush, comfy ride, than try these and you'd be gobsmacked at the sheer difference of the experience. The Mk7 has so much sportiness & agility in its suspension, that I don't feel that I've lost any of it, in spite of the huge (night and day) difference in ride comfort that I gained. This is especially so with this particular size (185/60-14), as it seems to suit the stock, 1,2 Fiesta perfectly.
Simply put: these tires immediately added a layer of "big car plushiness" in the ride, that was previously inexistent
on the stock Contis.
Given 84%
while driving a
Alfa Romeo MiTo
(225/45 R17 V)
on mostly country roads
for 5 miles
Hello. the model I use is alfa Romeo Mito. Toyo has always been an interesting tire for me. so I had no doubts about buying it. very handy cornering ability, good weather in high rainy weather. very successful in purchasing. It is beautiful in summer and winter. the vehicle is around 160hp. it is pretty good for me in every sense.
Given 85%
while driving a
Volvo 240 estate
(185/65 R15)
on a combination of roads
for 2,000 average miles
Good grip in wet and dry, fairly quiet and comfortable.
Obviously I'm not pushing these tires too hard in my boaty old Volvo, but they inspire confidence, have done well in a couple of emergency manoeuvres (no ABS, so good grip under braking has been important) and even got me through some snow recently.
I can't comment on how they'd perform in a powerful car or under really hard cornering, but for my needs they have been great.
Obviously I'm not pushing these tires too hard in my boaty old Volvo, but they inspire confidence, have done well in a couple of emergency manoeuvres (no ABS, so good grip under braking has been important) and even got me through some snow recently.
I can't comment on how they'd perform in a powerful car or under really hard cornering, but for my needs they have been great.
Given 96%
while driving a
Toyota Toyota verso
(205/55 R16 H)
on a combination of roads
for 0 average miles
A bit noisy, but overall fantastic tire for price
Given 84%
while driving a
Toyota Avensis
(225/45 R17)
on mostly motorways
for 6,000 average miles
Quiet tires, perfect in all conditions. Оnly with aggressive acceleration on wet asphalt tires lose traction earlier than expected but it is not a problem.
Given 90%
while driving a
Skoda Octavia vRS
(225/45 R17)
on a combination of roads
for 200 miles
Extremely quiet tires. Great grip in dry/wet. Car runs really smooth.
Volkswagen (215/55 R16 H)
on a combination of roads
for 50,000 average miles
With the tires I made 50000 kilometers in 1.5 time on a motorway but more so on rural roads summer winter.
I think they are very honest in relation to price performance as I bought them 300 € four.
Given 86%
while driving a
Opel meriva
(185/60 R15 H)
on a combination of roads
for 2,000 spirited miles
Nice tire, silent, good grip at cornering.
Given 92%
while driving a
Mazda 626
(195/60 R15 H)
on a combination of roads
for 3,000 average miles
My first Toyo tires and not the last. I switched to these Toyo tires after Continental ContiPremium 5. Conti were great, but every year worse and worse.
Tires feels glued to the road on dry and wet conditions. I was too fast in one curve, which was sharper then I expected and I believed that I will slide but the tires hold me on the road.
Sidewall is too soft, I can feel it during faster cornering but that means they are comfortable. Harder sidewalls a little and loosing some comfort would be better. Soft sidewall also means longer reaction when turning the steering wheel.
I have no problem with the tires during heavy rain on highway with 130km/h speed, they feels safe on wet. No problem with braking on dry or wet. I think that they brake on wet much better then Continentals.
Wear is not visible yet, but I am low on mileage so no problem for me if wear too fast, I will have to change to new tires after 4 year if weared to 3mm or 6mm.
No sliding the wheels during fast starts - kickdowns. I had a lot of these, usually on wet with Continentals..
Made in JAPAN.
Tires feels glued to the road on dry and wet conditions. I was too fast in one curve, which was sharper then I expected and I believed that I will slide but the tires hold me on the road.
Sidewall is too soft, I can feel it during faster cornering but that means they are comfortable. Harder sidewalls a little and loosing some comfort would be better. Soft sidewall also means longer reaction when turning the steering wheel.
I have no problem with the tires during heavy rain on highway with 130km/h speed, they feels safe on wet. No problem with braking on dry or wet. I think that they brake on wet much better then Continentals.
Wear is not visible yet, but I am low on mileage so no problem for me if wear too fast, I will have to change to new tires after 4 year if weared to 3mm or 6mm.
No sliding the wheels during fast starts - kickdowns. I had a lot of these, usually on wet with Continentals..
Made in JAPAN.
Given 99%
while driving a
Alfa Romeo 146 1.4 Twin Spark
(195/45 R16 V)
on a combination of roads
for 11,041 spirited miles
Mid-life (mainly in terms of age, I've had them for >2.5 years now) review, after 11,041 miles on the car.
Dry grip: Was always -easily- 10/10, no complaints whatsoever, and it's still the same.
Wet Grip: Also pretty excellent, nothing short of expectations - in fact even better than that, genuinely great.
Road feedback: Amazing. I always know what the tires are doing at any given moment when close to / at the limit.
Handling: Quite progressive, when the grip -eventually!- runs out. Sharp, instant handling too - which does match the Alfa's sporty nature. I really have to push hard to reach the limit in the first place.
Wear: Minimal. Still over 5mm on both axles (I rotate them every 7,500 km / 4,650 miles AND check my alignment once a year).
Comfort: Perhaps the only area where the CF2 doesn't get 10/10 - for me. At times, on less than perfect road surfaces there's still a slight "buzz" from the tires, albeit at motorway speeds they are very quiet, it has to be said. Still, it isn't bad at all overall.
Buy again: DEFINITELY. Unless Toyo gives us the CF3 before I change my CF2s - but they will have a heck of a lot to live up to, to be even as good as the CF2s. And one final extra point, they are quite efficient, no drop in MPG so far, at least, they roll quite well indeed.
Quite happy with my choice, great tire, on the whole recommended. If they keep performing like new (which they do), I may even keep them for 5 years instead of my personal limit of 4 years.
Dry grip: Was always -easily- 10/10, no complaints whatsoever, and it's still the same.
Wet Grip: Also pretty excellent, nothing short of expectations - in fact even better than that, genuinely great.
Road feedback: Amazing. I always know what the tires are doing at any given moment when close to / at the limit.
Handling: Quite progressive, when the grip -eventually!- runs out. Sharp, instant handling too - which does match the Alfa's sporty nature. I really have to push hard to reach the limit in the first place.
Wear: Minimal. Still over 5mm on both axles (I rotate them every 7,500 km / 4,650 miles AND check my alignment once a year).
Comfort: Perhaps the only area where the CF2 doesn't get 10/10 - for me. At times, on less than perfect road surfaces there's still a slight "buzz" from the tires, albeit at motorway speeds they are very quiet, it has to be said. Still, it isn't bad at all overall.
Buy again: DEFINITELY. Unless Toyo gives us the CF3 before I change my CF2s - but they will have a heck of a lot to live up to, to be even as good as the CF2s. And one final extra point, they are quite efficient, no drop in MPG so far, at least, they roll quite well indeed.
Quite happy with my choice, great tire, on the whole recommended. If they keep performing like new (which they do), I may even keep them for 5 years instead of my personal limit of 4 years.