265/45 R17 Tires

We have these tires on both our 4x4s, specifically an Audi A6 all-road and a Toyota Landcruiser, driven predominantly on country roads with occasional motorway journeys. Very pleased with performance, braking, and grip in ice /snow. Road noise no worse than original summer tires, and wear is very even, the tires are much more resilient than expected (in fact, we haven't bothered putting the summer tires back on). I plan to put these on my new Landcruiser for the forthcoming winter.

These tires were unfortunately fitted by a dealer when I bought a BMW 530D from them......
They are simply abysmal! In the dry they are ok ish (but most any tire would give some dry grip), however, in the wet, they are totally unpredictable,with no feedback, the only thing you can safely predict is that the wheels will spin incessantly (traction control or not)- and any corners have to be taken with a good deal of trepidation. In the hands of an inexperienced driver I fear that any car would soon be proceeding (probably sideways) towards the scene of a nasty accident. Incidentally, the noise from these tires is a constant reminder that they are total CRAP.
I cannot imagine that there could be a worse tire on sale. It certainly seems that you pay for what you get with tires, so do like I'm doing, and get a proper, branded set of tires fitted before it's too late!