I bought 2 of these NT8000 for the front of my Saab 9-3 after reading several reviews, my initial impression was excellent, quiet, and the grip in the dry is unbelievably good, I do drive a bit on the hard side, however, after driving in the wet, and lets face it, the UK tends to be more wet than dry, I will be removing them, unless you really enjoy not knowing whether the car will remain on the road they are not for wet weather and in my opinion dangerous. Don't get me wrong, I haven't had issues in the dry, a fantastic dry weather tire and if we get a long hot summer, they will be going back on.