Tried these tires, NEVER again... Car had a annoying trembly feel to it all the time, especially on very smooth hot mix, wet weather grip VERY unpredictable, tried to balance them several times, then found that were out of round,!! dealer would not take them back, OR refund, Had been buying TOYO Teo from him for ages, on my BMW,s and SAAB,s. Has lost me as a customer.